Collaboration and Artist Sort Name

Andrei

Do you have any idea why OCD is not consistent in how it handles Artist Sort Names in collaborations? Here are a few examples of the problem:

Art Pepper & George Cables;Tête-À-Tête
Art Pepper & Warne Marsh;Art N Warne
Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims;Art 'N' Zoot

Baker, Chet & Lee Konitz;In Concert
Baker, Chet & Russ Freeman;Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman
Chet Baker & Art Pepper;Playboys

Why is Art Pepper not Pepper, Art in the first two examples when it is properly Pepper, Art in the 3rd? If OCD has Baker, Chet in the 4th & 5th examples, why does it show Chet Baker in the 6th?

It is consistently inconsistent (Art Pepper & George Cables is always that way and Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims is always that way).

Stan Jones

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Originally Posted by Jazz_North

Andrei

Do you have any idea why OCD is not consistent in how it handles Artist Sort Names in collaborations? Here are a few examples of the problem:

Art Pepper & George Cables;Tête-À-Tête
Art Pepper & Warne Marsh;Art N Warne
Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims;Art 'N' Zoot

Baker, Chet & Lee Konitz;In Concert
Baker, Chet & Russ Freeman;Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman
Chet Baker & Art Pepper;Playboys

Why is Art Pepper not Pepper, Art in the first two examples when it is properly Pepper, Art in the 3rd? If OCD has Baker, Chet in the 4th & 5th examples, why does it show Chet Baker in the 6th?

It is consistently inconsistent (Art Pepper & George Cables is always that way and Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims is always that way).

Stan Jones

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Hi Stan,

Please go to menu Library > Manage Artists and delete any entries resembling "Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims" or "Baker, Chet & Lee Konitz". These should be collaborations, not real artists.

If this doesn't help, I'd have to ask for more data. This bug is path-dependent; i.e. it has something to do with your artist/album editing history.

Andrei

Andrei

I did that and what I achieved is just the opposite of what I wanted. Now ALL the artist sort names in collaborations are sorted by first name not last name. Not only do I still have Art Pepper & George Cables, but now it is Art Pepper & Zoot Sims instead of the correct Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims.

Stan

Hi Stan,

Now try editing collaborations again. Make sure you got artist spelling exactly as you like in Collaboration dialog box.

Andrei

No luck, Andrei. I still get Art Pepper & Zoot Sims as the Artist Sort Name instead of Pepper, Art & Zoot Sims. And the same is now true for every collaboration in my database; not a single one has the correct Artist Sort Name.

Andrei

As a test I created a new album with a collaboration between two artists who are in the database with proper sort names (Alexander, Monty and Albany, Joe) but were not in any collaborations until I created this one. The sort name that appears for the collaboration is Monty Alexander & Joe Albany when it should be Alexander, Monty & Joe Albany. I don't think any previous editing has caused this.

Stan